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		<title>By: Dick Westheimer</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Westheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;new institutions replacing old ones.  That&#039;s healthy, right?&quot;&lt;br&gt;      Hmmm.  I think so.  Jefferson called for revolution in institutions every generation.  But he was very pleased in his dotage the the institutions he created in revolution endured!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the roots of the ungluing, you are partly right.  But it really had more to do with size and the magnification of individual excess made possible by email.  Really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for multiple generations, the mixture of wisdom and experience and energy and insight that comes with multigenerational projects is stunningly powerful AND inherently unstable.  Leadership, humility, and generosity are what it takes to overcome that instability --  oh, and embracing that instability/ambiguity as an asset rather than a liability!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;new institutions replacing old ones.  That&#39;s healthy, right?&#8221;<br />      Hmmm.  I think so.  Jefferson called for revolution in institutions every generation.  But he was very pleased in his dotage the the institutions he created in revolution endured!</p>
<p>As for the roots of the ungluing, you are partly right.  But it really had more to do with size and the magnification of individual excess made possible by email.  Really.</p>
<p>As for multiple generations, the mixture of wisdom and experience and energy and insight that comes with multigenerational projects is stunningly powerful AND inherently unstable.  Leadership, humility, and generosity are what it takes to overcome that instability &#8212;  oh, and embracing that instability/ambiguity as an asset rather than a liability!</p>
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		<title>By: innonate</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>innonate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the added insight, especially in regards to &quot;open home&quot; and the regular meetups, and in regards to new institutions replacing old ones. That&#039;s healthy, right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to the un-gluing of the group, do you think some of that had to do with the high turnover of home schooling families? Kids grow up and parents lose interest, then new families come in and have no memory of how things were...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think one of the most important aspects of an industry community is presence of multiple generations of community members. With NY tech, folks who were around in Web 1.0 have a lot to share and teach and invest, as the web 2.0 generation works their collective butts off to out do the previous generation (and return their investment).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There must be a lesson on multiple generational involvement here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the added insight, especially in regards to &#8220;open home&#8221; and the regular meetups, and in regards to new institutions replacing old ones. That&#39;s healthy, right?</p>
<p>As to the un-gluing of the group, do you think some of that had to do with the high turnover of home schooling families? Kids grow up and parents lose interest, then new families come in and have no memory of how things were&#8230;</p>
<p>I think one of the most important aspects of an industry community is presence of multiple generations of community members. With NY tech, folks who were around in Web 1.0 have a lot to share and teach and invest, as the web 2.0 generation works their collective butts off to out do the previous generation (and return their investment).</p>
<p>There must be a lesson on multiple generational involvement here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BillSeitz</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>BillSeitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome story</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Westheimer</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Westheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate:  Well stated.  As one of the observers of the Homeschool Network&#039;s founding, I echo your statements.  I would add several observations that add color to your description.  The network&#039;s initial growth was facilitated by the biweekly open houses Deb organized at the farm.  These unprogrammed &quot;meet ups&quot; were at the heart of the model.  They reinforced the notion that education was not the stuff of &quot;experts&quot; but of networks.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The second item has to do with governance:  HSN was organized by a small group who immediately ceded authority to...everybody.  The governance board was comprised of whomever showed up at  governance meetings.  Structurally, four people each year (a treasurer, the newsletter editor, the phone contact person, and one other)  committed to showing up at each meeting but decisions were made by consensus by all comers.  Each meeting started with a statement of inclusive principles and a reminder of the responsibilities of the consensus process.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The final success of the model was that as soon as it grew to big and unwieldy, it spawned new inclusive (and exclusive) organizations founded on similar principles.  Self-organization run amuck!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One final note:  THis utopian model DID eventually come unglued.  It was always unstable and subject to the excesses of certain individuals.  These individuals excesses  were magnified as the organization grew.  But they were also magnified by new technology -- namely email.  Email allowed folks to distribute their &quot;grievances&quot; quickly and widely.  Small items of contention became big.  And big ones became unmanageable.  C&#039;est la vie, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate:  Well stated.  As one of the observers of the Homeschool Network&#39;s founding, I echo your statements.  I would add several observations that add color to your description.  The network&#39;s initial growth was facilitated by the biweekly open houses Deb organized at the farm.  These unprogrammed &#8220;meet ups&#8221; were at the heart of the model.  They reinforced the notion that education was not the stuff of &#8220;experts&#8221; but of networks.  </p>
<p>The second item has to do with governance:  HSN was organized by a small group who immediately ceded authority to&#8230;everybody.  The governance board was comprised of whomever showed up at  governance meetings.  Structurally, four people each year (a treasurer, the newsletter editor, the phone contact person, and one other)  committed to showing up at each meeting but decisions were made by consensus by all comers.  Each meeting started with a statement of inclusive principles and a reminder of the responsibilities of the consensus process.  </p>
<p>The final success of the model was that as soon as it grew to big and unwieldy, it spawned new inclusive (and exclusive) organizations founded on similar principles.  Self-organization run amuck!</p>
<p>One final note:  THis utopian model DID eventually come unglued.  It was always unstable and subject to the excesses of certain individuals.  These individuals excesses  were magnified as the organization grew.  But they were also magnified by new technology &#8212; namely email.  Email allowed folks to distribute their &#8220;grievances&#8221; quickly and widely.  Small items of contention became big.  And big ones became unmanageable.  C&#39;est la vie, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay well I&#039;ll have to issue the same thanks when you publish your dad blog post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay well I&#39;ll have to issue the same thanks when you publish your dad blog post. <img src='http://innonate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: adventurista</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>adventurista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty great.  I would like to add my two cents and personally thank Mrs Westheimer for teaching Nate the word &quot;hegemonic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty great.  I would like to add my two cents and personally thank Mrs Westheimer for teaching Nate the word &#8220;hegemonic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney Hess</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitney Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlham College is the bomb. I have a friend who went there and he raves about the sense of equality among and individual contribution of its community members. I&#039;d like to see a more inclusive NY tech scene without factions and social climbing. Do you think that&#039;s possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlham College is the bomb. I have a friend who went there and he raves about the sense of equality among and individual contribution of its community members. I&#39;d like to see a more inclusive NY tech scene without factions and social climbing. Do you think that&#39;s possible?</p>
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		<title>By: innonate</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>innonate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s all possible.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I mean, I don&#039;t think private groups are a bad thing, as long as there  &lt;br&gt;is also plenty of public organizing going on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I quite enjoy hanging out with particular private crew on a regular  &lt;br&gt;basis, and I don&#039;t see a need to Tweet it out and invite more people.  &lt;br&gt;If fact, I think get-togethers like that are important elements of a  &lt;br&gt;healthy ecosystem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, Open culture has been fundamental to our industry and  &lt;br&gt;community&#039;s advancement. The more folks meet the more they can connect  &lt;br&gt;and the more efficient our system/ecosystem becomes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think we can be more a more efficient community, and I think we&#039;ll  &lt;br&gt;get there by being more inclusive. It&#039;s to the community&#039;s benefit to  &lt;br&gt;do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s all possible.</p>
<p>I mean, I don&#39;t think private groups are a bad thing, as long as there  <br />is also plenty of public organizing going on.</p>
<p>I quite enjoy hanging out with particular private crew on a regular  <br />basis, and I don&#39;t see a need to Tweet it out and invite more people.  <br />If fact, I think get-togethers like that are important elements of a  <br />healthy ecosystem.</p>
<p>However, Open culture has been fundamental to our industry and  <br />community&#39;s advancement. The more folks meet the more they can connect  <br />and the more efficient our system/ecosystem becomes.</p>
<p>I think we can be more a more efficient community, and I think we&#39;ll  <br />get there by being more inclusive. It&#39;s to the community&#39;s benefit to  <br />do it!</p>
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		<title>By: innonate</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>innonate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest my dad taught me that one. He&#039;s next to be honored  &lt;br&gt;on this blog. Taught me a lot about organizing too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest my dad taught me that one. He&#39;s next to be honored  <br />on this blog. Taught me a lot about organizing too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Westheimer</title>
		<link>http://innonate.com/2008/12/16/organizers-debbie-westheimer/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Westheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;new institutions replacing old ones.  That&#039;s healthy, right?&quot;&lt;br&gt;      Hmmm.  I think so.  Jefferson called for revolution in institutions every generation.  But he was very pleased in his dotage the the institutions he created in revolution endured!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the roots of the ungluing, you are partly right.  But it really had more to do with size and the magnification of individual excess made possible by email.  Really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for multiple generations, the mixture of wisdom and experience and energy and insight that comes with multigenerational projects is stunningly powerful AND inherently unstable.  Leadership, humility, and generosity are what it takes to overcome that instability --  oh, and embracing that instability/ambiguity as an asset rather than a liability!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;new institutions replacing old ones.  That&#39;s healthy, right?&#8221;<br />      Hmmm.  I think so.  Jefferson called for revolution in institutions every generation.  But he was very pleased in his dotage the the institutions he created in revolution endured!</p>
<p>As for the roots of the ungluing, you are partly right.  But it really had more to do with size and the magnification of individual excess made possible by email.  Really.</p>
<p>As for multiple generations, the mixture of wisdom and experience and energy and insight that comes with multigenerational projects is stunningly powerful AND inherently unstable.  Leadership, humility, and generosity are what it takes to overcome that instability &#8212;  oh, and embracing that instability/ambiguity as an asset rather than a liability!</p>
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